{"id":1452,"date":"2021-07-01T10:26:00","date_gmt":"2021-07-01T14:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/?p=1452"},"modified":"2022-10-02T08:32:17","modified_gmt":"2022-10-02T12:32:17","slug":"vibiller-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/vibiller-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"2021 ViBILLER Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By: Alara Tuncer<\/p>\n<p>In 2021, the estimated net worth of the live concert industry was $17.4 billion, a figure<br \/>\nexpected to climb up to $31.1 billion by 2024 globally. To date, there are only a few ways of<br \/>\nobjectively evaluating engagement and interest of live concerts. ViBILLER is a start-up founded<br \/>\nby three researchers from NYU Center for Language for Music and Emotion; Dr. Claire Pelofi,<br \/>\nDr. Pablo Ripolles and Dana Bevilacqua. It is the \u201cvideo-based interface for live labelling of<br \/>\nemotional responses\u201d that aims to evaluate engagement in live performances. This is essentially<br \/>\nan algorithm that will be an accurate, affordable and computationally inexpensive way of<br \/>\nmeasuring emotional arousal for venue managers, producers and artists.<br \/>\nThis is not only an ambitious task but also a difficult one, however, once put into use it can<br \/>\nbring revenue to the music industry and revolutionize how concerts are valued. This passion<br \/>\nproject that initially began as a \u201cpandemic research baby\u201d as referred to by Bevilacqua, banks<br \/>\non the idea that group emotion and engagement are predictors of consumer preferences and<br \/>\npurchasing decisions. The ViBILLER technology will be designed to give real-time feedback to<br \/>\nartists to enhance customer experience. Undoubtedly, it will be of great value for recorded<br \/>\nmusic and ticket sales as well as venue preferences.<br \/>\nAnd who better to design this interface than these researchers? Dr. Claire Pelofi as the lead<br \/>\nresearch scientist of ViBILLER has a background in philosophy, music and neuroscience with<br \/>\nexperience studying \u201chow the brain works and process music\u201d in response to computational<br \/>\nmodels of sounds and \u201chow language is processed in relation to rhythm\u201d. Dr. Pablo Ripolles as<br \/>\nthe lead collaborator and \u201cthe resident emotion expert\u201d is an assistant professor for music<br \/>\ntechnology and psychology at NYU College of Arts and Sciences, where his research focuses on<br \/>\nutilizing cognitive neuroscience methods such as functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI)<br \/>\nand magnetoencephalography scan (MEG) to measure behavior and emotions in response to<br \/>\nmusic. Meanwhile Dana Bevilacqua is an associate researcher who has experience exploring<br \/>\ngroup dynamics and engagement with relation to real-life experiences\u2014with expertise in<br \/>\ncollecting data from interactive installations that combine art and science.<br \/>\nSince all researchers work under CLaME, Center for Language, Music and Emotion at NYU,<br \/>\nwhich is a \u201ccollaborative center that hit research topics that utilize theories and methodologies<br \/>\nacross several domains\u201d bringing together principles of language, music and emotion, surely it<br \/>\nisn\u2019t a surprise that ViBILLER technology aims to do the same. Working to create a technology<br \/>\nthat is an amalgamation and interdisciplinary has allowed the team to bring together an<br \/>\n\u201ceclectic bunch\u201d of researchers, artists and industry specialists to bring the idea to life.<br \/>\nThe first hardship they faced as a start-up was quite unique\u2014abandoning the initial idea that<br \/>\nunited their team in the first place. Although the ultimate goal was always the same\u2014to<br \/>\nmeasure crowd engagement and emotional arousal in a live event\u2014 the founders initially<br \/>\nthought of a different way to establish this. They called it the CHILLER, \u201ca computer-human<\/p>\n<p>interface for live labelling of emotional responses\u201d that consisted of mini wearable sensor<br \/>\ngadget designed to evaluate emotional responses based on goosebumps. But how do you make<br \/>\nan audience wear a gadget? So, ultimately after the customer interviews and overwhelming<br \/>\nfeedback, the team had to put this idea to bed and ViBILLER was unearthed\u2014using video<br \/>\nsoftware to record the crowd and evaluate engagement with an algorithm.<br \/>\nIt is safe to say that all researchers with their unique experiences and expertise are more than<br \/>\nqualified to create this interdisciplinary and translational technology. Yet, as Bevilacqua states,<br \/>\nimposter syndrome can still be very real for entrepreneurs, especially for those who are in<br \/>\nminority groups. \u201cThe more you repeat the idea over and over again, you may take it for<br \/>\ngranted what others may be hearing for the first time.\u201d And this may \u201cfeel like it\u2019s not worthy<br \/>\nor that it is something that someone else can do better.\u201d When this is the case and \u201cthe<br \/>\ninternal voices become the primary obstacle\u201d as Bevilacqua states it is important \u201cjust get over<br \/>\nyourself and do it\u201d and have a team to support one another. Dr. Pelofi states that self-<br \/>\ncensorship leads \u201cto a crowd that is not as diverse and rich as it should be\u201d meanwhile Dr.<br \/>\nRipolles adds that this is due to pressure imposed by society that we have yet to tackle. \u201cSome<br \/>\npeople don\u2019t know the rules of the game,\u201d states Dr Ripolles emphasizing the need to teach<br \/>\nunderserved communities to be proactive and \u201cgo get what they want because they are just as<br \/>\nbrilliant.\u201d<br \/>\nAlso, Bevilacqua emphasizes on the collective challenge they faced when transitioning from<br \/>\nacademia to entrepreneurship. \u201cIt is a totally different mindset and a different language\u201d that is<br \/>\n\u201calmost uncomfortable\u201d because of the contrast between sharing everything learned during<br \/>\nresearch in academia versus \u201cbeing more protective of your intellectual property\u201d for<br \/>\nentrepreneurship. When this was the case, she claims that taking advantage of all the resources<br \/>\navailable was imperative, stating that \u201ca diverse perspective from the entrepreneurial point-of<br \/>\nview has been really helpful\u201d.<br \/>\nDr. Ripolles explains how the perpetual curiosity that defines the personality of every scientist<br \/>\ncan actually become problematic in entrepreneurship. Naturally, scientists formulate various<br \/>\nideas simply because \u201cthat would be super cool\u201d to study, but as the ViBILLER team found out<br \/>\nfrom their advisors, not all of these can make money. Dr. Pelofi emphasizes on the importance<br \/>\nof focusing on the society, significance and \u201cthe future trajectory of the entrepreneurial<br \/>\nproduct\u201d when creating a design. This was an adjustment they had to make when creating<br \/>\nViBILLER to fit the market need\u2014shifting the focus from what is interesting to what is profitable<br \/>\nand practical for use.<br \/>\nAdditionally, the team members emphasize on the importance of mentorship and mentorship<br \/>\nprograms. The team members describe the I-Corps experience as being similar to a \u201chot seat\u201d<br \/>\nwhere you have to find answers to the questions that are being asked\u2014but as Bevilacqua states<br \/>\n\u201cthis is also what makes the experience validating,\u201d giving them the opportunity of revising the<br \/>\nidea and making it better. Dr Ripolles jokingly states that academia prepares you for this sort<br \/>\nhardship, \u201cwhen the world says no you have to keep saying yes because science is rejection and<br \/>\nit is brutal.\u201d However, as something the team has learned through various workshops, as an<\/p>\n<p>entrepreneur it is important to be open to criticism and accept that you don\u2019t know everything<br \/>\nin order to develop your product.<br \/>\nDespite the obvious monetary gains that this project will bring to the team, this isn\u2019t just a<br \/>\nproject to capitalize on, it\u2019s also a part of a larger research mission to understand how the brain<br \/>\nworks. As Dr. Ripolles explains \u201cmusic is a super interesting stimulus to understand how the<br \/>\nbrain processes speech, rhythm or abstract rewards.\u201d These are rewards that aren\u2019t physical<br \/>\nand hard for us to study on animals. Just like we don\u2019t completely understand what about a<br \/>\nsunset gives us pleasure, we also don\u2019t understand what elements of music create emotional<br \/>\narousal. In collaboration with CLaME, the ViBILLER project aims to support the larger goal of<br \/>\nusing music to understand abstract rewards whilst contributing to a need of understanding<br \/>\nengagement in the live concert marketplace.<br \/>\nLastly, having two female founders, I had the opportunity to ask the ViBILLER team what they<br \/>\nthink would be the best way to support women to gain leadership roles. Dr Pelofi emphasized<br \/>\nthe primary need for \u201cchanging the mentality surrounding maternal need.\u201d In societies where<br \/>\nthere are few options for women to have kids while working and lacking the norm that their<br \/>\npartner needs to be just as involved when having kids as them, women will be<br \/>\nundercompensated. When this is the case, \u201cwomen will have to put their careers on hold\u201d<br \/>\nwhich will set them back from their male counterparts. Additionally, normalizing the idea that<br \/>\n\u201cthe work of women is equal to the work of men\u201d is likely to be beneficial, so that the work and<br \/>\nthe burden is shared equally and there is a change in mentality regarding the issue.<br \/>\nThe ViBILLER team has emphasized the importance of mentorship when having an<br \/>\nentrepreneurial idea. They even have said \u201chaving a great idea is the least of the worries.\u201d So<br \/>\nfar, they have gained support from Prof. Jin Montclare (CIE Institute Director) as a result of NSF<br \/>\nI-Corps. However, there is still work left to do. We wish ViBILLER the best of luck at their start-<br \/>\nup as they implement their idea, and we hope to see their technologies featured in future<br \/>\nconcerts!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1455\" src=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Claire.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"253\" height=\"258\" srcset=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Claire.png 523w, http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Claire-294x300.png 294w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 253px) 100vw, 253px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1454\" src=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Pablo.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"251\" srcset=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Pablo.png 487w, http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Pablo-260x300.png 260w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1453\" src=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Dana.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"229\" height=\"252\" srcset=\"http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Dana.png 480w, http:\/\/microsites.engineering.nyu.edu\/cie\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/8\/2021\/07\/Dana-273x300.png 273w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 Dr. Claire Pelofi\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Pablo Ripolles<\/span>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dana Bevilacqua<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By: Alara Tuncer In 2021, the estimated net worth of the live concert industry was $17.4 billion, a figure expected to climb up to $31.1 billion by 2024 globally. 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